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		<title>Comment on Weird People by Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 01:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just because I am weird...doesn&#039;t make me a bad person&quot;.  No, it doesn&#039;t.  It usually makes the person fascinating (to me anyway), IMHO.

Whether or not Nietzsche had someone actually love him, I don&#039;t know.  If he had, he certainly would have deflected their attentions in favor of his pursuit of his intellectual/philosophical goals.

He had definite views on the life of a philosopher and marriage:

On page 543 of *Basic Writings of Nietzsche in Genealogy of Morals: Third Essay, he writes:

&quot; Every animal—therefore the philosophical animal, too— instinctively strives for an optimum of favorable conditions under which it can expend all its strength and achieve its maximal feeling of power; every animal abhors, just as instinctively and with a subtlety of discernment that is &quot;higher than all reason,&quot; every kind of intrusion or hindrance that obstructs or could obstruct this path to the optimum (I am not speaking of its path to happiness, but its path to power, to action, to the most powerful activity, and in most cases actually its path to unhappiness). Thus the philosopher abhors marriage, together with that which might persuade to it—marriage being a hindrance and calamity on his path to the optimum. What great philosopher hitherto has been married? Heraclitus, Plato, Descartes, Spinoza, Leibniz, Kant, Schopenhauer—they were not; more, one cannot even imagine them married. A married philosopher belongs in comedy, that is my proposition—and as for that exception, Socrates—the malicious Socrates, it would seem, married ironically, just to demonstrate this proposition.&quot;

Apparently, the philosopher is married to his work, not to a woman, who would detract from his serious contemplations.  Did he take a long term lover?  I wonder.  

I can relate...completely to Nietzsche&#039;s sentiment.  As an intelligent, introspective and quasi-philosophical married woman and wanna-be writer, I find myself conflicted and sometimes even irritated over having interruptions to my thought processes by ordinary things like dishes, child care and being requested to snuggle when I want to think or write.  

It&#039;s, in some regards, terribly selfish, but it&#039;s true.  Writers, philosophers, poets, artists, and their ilk are often married more to their idea(l)s which can makes it very difficult to make room for people on a long term basis.  Sure, there is some satisfaction to be had, but there is a constant tug in two directions - the more tranquil (read: boring) existence of domestic &quot;bliss&quot; and the siren call of the creative/thinking life.

Personally, I think, some amount of suffering brings out creativity as much as ecstasy does.   I CAN&#039;T lead a suffering-free life. And I am not sure I want to.  I need those major swings between the highs and the lows.  But that&#039;s just MY weirdness.

Oh, and Nietzsche coined one of my most favorite aphorisms:  &quot;That which does not kill us makes us stronger.&quot;  This aphorism was one that got me through MANY a tough nights when I struggled with suicidal ideations.

And yeah, your presence on this blog was missed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just because I am weird&#8230;doesn&#8217;t make me a bad person&#8221;.  No, it doesn&#8217;t.  It usually makes the person fascinating (to me anyway), IMHO.</p>
<p>Whether or not Nietzsche had someone actually love him, I don&#8217;t know.  If he had, he certainly would have deflected their attentions in favor of his pursuit of his intellectual/philosophical goals.</p>
<p>He had definite views on the life of a philosopher and marriage:</p>
<p>On page 543 of *Basic Writings of Nietzsche in Genealogy of Morals: Third Essay, he writes:</p>
<p>&#8221; Every animal—therefore the philosophical animal, too— instinctively strives for an optimum of favorable conditions under which it can expend all its strength and achieve its maximal feeling of power; every animal abhors, just as instinctively and with a subtlety of discernment that is &#8220;higher than all reason,&#8221; every kind of intrusion or hindrance that obstructs or could obstruct this path to the optimum (I am not speaking of its path to happiness, but its path to power, to action, to the most powerful activity, and in most cases actually its path to unhappiness). Thus the philosopher abhors marriage, together with that which might persuade to it—marriage being a hindrance and calamity on his path to the optimum. What great philosopher hitherto has been married? Heraclitus, Plato, Descartes, Spinoza, Leibniz, Kant, Schopenhauer—they were not; more, one cannot even imagine them married. A married philosopher belongs in comedy, that is my proposition—and as for that exception, Socrates—the malicious Socrates, it would seem, married ironically, just to demonstrate this proposition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently, the philosopher is married to his work, not to a woman, who would detract from his serious contemplations.  Did he take a long term lover?  I wonder.  </p>
<p>I can relate&#8230;completely to Nietzsche&#8217;s sentiment.  As an intelligent, introspective and quasi-philosophical married woman and wanna-be writer, I find myself conflicted and sometimes even irritated over having interruptions to my thought processes by ordinary things like dishes, child care and being requested to snuggle when I want to think or write.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s, in some regards, terribly selfish, but it&#8217;s true.  Writers, philosophers, poets, artists, and their ilk are often married more to their idea(l)s which can makes it very difficult to make room for people on a long term basis.  Sure, there is some satisfaction to be had, but there is a constant tug in two directions &#8211; the more tranquil (read: boring) existence of domestic &#8220;bliss&#8221; and the siren call of the creative/thinking life.</p>
<p>Personally, I think, some amount of suffering brings out creativity as much as ecstasy does.   I CAN&#8217;T lead a suffering-free life. And I am not sure I want to.  I need those major swings between the highs and the lows.  But that&#8217;s just MY weirdness.</p>
<p>Oh, and Nietzsche coined one of my most favorite aphorisms:  &#8220;That which does not kill us makes us stronger.&#8221;  This aphorism was one that got me through MANY a tough nights when I struggled with suicidal ideations.</p>
<p>And yeah, your presence on this blog was missed.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Actually, I DO get it&#8230; by Jill</title>
		<link>http://www.brokedownspirit.com/2009/08/actually-i-do-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least, with regards to how I feel

(1) don’t know how to express their discomfort - had been true before
(2) don’t care enough about our relationship to express their discomfort - not true and see #1.
(3) despise me - definitely not true
(4) despise themselves - possibly true before but not now.
(5) don’t/won’t/can’t own their “stuff.” - working on it

&quot;When a relationship is important to those involved, they look for reasons to stay. They look for the good things shared and hope for the good things that may be shared as the relationship progresses.&quot;

I&#039;d like to think you really mean this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least, with regards to how I feel</p>
<p>(1) don’t know how to express their discomfort &#8211; had been true before<br />
(2) don’t care enough about our relationship to express their discomfort &#8211; not true and see #1.<br />
(3) despise me &#8211; definitely not true<br />
(4) despise themselves &#8211; possibly true before but not now.<br />
(5) don’t/won’t/can’t own their “stuff.” &#8211; working on it</p>
<p>&#8220;When a relationship is important to those involved, they look for reasons to stay. They look for the good things shared and hope for the good things that may be shared as the relationship progresses.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think you really mean this.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Day&#8217;s Musing: WASTING MY TIME? by the kittycat</title>
		<link>http://www.brokedownspirit.com/2009/06/days-musing-wasting-my-time/comment-page-1/#comment-735</link>
		<dc:creator>the kittycat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 08:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmm

this would be better

xoxo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmm</p>
<p>this would be better</p>
<p>xoxo</p>
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		<title>Comment on Actually, I DO get it&#8230; by (...)</title>
		<link>http://www.brokedownspirit.com/2009/08/actually-i-do-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>(...)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;!--more--&gt;I&#039;m very happy to read this post!  It sheds some light on how screwed up our society really is...how we live in such a world of fake and selfish people.  Through your writings (and I&#039;ve read many), I can see what a wonderfully sincere person that you are.  I hope that you&#039;ll continue to write and that your writings will allow other people to open their eyes and find the beauty that is there in front of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--more-->I&#8217;m very happy to read this post!  It sheds some light on how screwed up our society really is&#8230;how we live in such a world of fake and selfish people.  Through your writings (and I&#8217;ve read many), I can see what a wonderfully sincere person that you are.  I hope that you&#8217;ll continue to write and that your writings will allow other people to open their eyes and find the beauty that is there in front of them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Through the lens of giftedness by Broken Too</title>
		<link>http://www.brokedownspirit.com/2009/07/through-the-lens-of-giftedness/comment-page-1/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>Broken Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 17:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deb...

Dr. Silverman is a wealth of information. If you are experiencing giftedness in your daughter, there is a likelihood that you&#039;ll find some &quot;gifted areas&quot; in your self. One of the greatest challenges in parenting is allowing our children to soar...even when we are unable to teach them how.

I wish you ALL the best in your quest.

Peace...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deb&#8230;</p>
<p>Dr. Silverman is a wealth of information. If you are experiencing giftedness in your daughter, there is a likelihood that you&#8217;ll find some &#8220;gifted areas&#8221; in your self. One of the greatest challenges in parenting is allowing our children to soar&#8230;even when we are unable to teach them how.</p>
<p>I wish you ALL the best in your quest.</p>
<p>Peace&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Through the lens of giftedness by Deb Jolda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb Jolda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, amazing article. Thank you so much! It&#039;s given me great insight into what my daughter could be experiencing, as well as a filter through which I can review my own childhood experiences and frustrations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, amazing article. Thank you so much! It&#8217;s given me great insight into what my daughter could be experiencing, as well as a filter through which I can review my own childhood experiences and frustrations.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Actually, I DO get it&#8230; by a friend</title>
		<link>http://www.brokedownspirit.com/2009/08/actually-i-do-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>a friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 20:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might be interested (might not) in my latest blog post.  Perhaps it would shed some light on things.  Perhaps not.  I don&#039;t know but I thought I&#039;d offer it up anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might be interested (might not) in my latest blog post.  Perhaps it would shed some light on things.  Perhaps not.  I don&#8217;t know but I thought I&#8217;d offer it up anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Actually, I DO get it&#8230; by a friend</title>
		<link>http://www.brokedownspirit.com/2009/08/actually-i-do-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-518</link>
		<dc:creator>a friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for clarifying.  I&#039;ve realized (in more ways than one)...the error of my judgments.

Suffice it to say that I&#039;m working on my own stuff.  

Best wishes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for clarifying.  I&#8217;ve realized (in more ways than one)&#8230;the error of my judgments.</p>
<p>Suffice it to say that I&#8217;m working on my own stuff.  </p>
<p>Best wishes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Actually, I DO get it&#8230; by Broken Too</title>
		<link>http://www.brokedownspirit.com/2009/08/actually-i-do-get-it/comment-page-1/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>Broken Too</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear &quot;a friend&quot;...

(1) You&#039;ve never been &quot;around&quot; me. As far as I know, we have not been closer than 500 or so miles to each other.

(2) I&#039;ve never said that your caring was &quot;a show.&quot; I don&#039;t think that it was/is.

(3) I totally respect your life and family and am glad that you consider it and them a priority. I wouldn&#039;t want it any other way.

(4) You don&#039;t have to &quot;make&quot; me understand that you care. I&#039;m sure you do.

(5) I&#039;ll have to think about the &quot;get over yourself&quot; thing. Seriously.

Finally, regardless of whether or not you think that this post was written only &quot;about you,&quot; it wasn&#039;t.

Thank you for your feedback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear &#8220;a friend&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>(1) You&#8217;ve never been &#8220;around&#8221; me. As far as I know, we have not been closer than 500 or so miles to each other.</p>
<p>(2) I&#8217;ve never said that your caring was &#8220;a show.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think that it was/is.</p>
<p>(3) I totally respect your life and family and am glad that you consider it and them a priority. I wouldn&#8217;t want it any other way.</p>
<p>(4) You don&#8217;t have to &#8220;make&#8221; me understand that you care. I&#8217;m sure you do.</p>
<p>(5) I&#8217;ll have to think about the &#8220;get over yourself&#8221; thing. Seriously.</p>
<p>Finally, regardless of whether or not you think that this post was written only &#8220;about you,&#8221; it wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Thank you for your feedback.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Actually, I DO get it&#8230; by a friend</title>
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		<dc:creator>a friend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;I am uncomfortable around you.  My caring wasn&#039;t a show.  I just have a life I need to live and kids to raise and a marriage to tend to instead of trying to make you understand I do care.

Get over yourself.  Seriously.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>I am uncomfortable around you.  My caring wasn&#8217;t a show.  I just have a life I need to live and kids to raise and a marriage to tend to instead of trying to make you understand I do care.</p>
<p>Get over yourself.  Seriously.</strong></p>
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